The Punk And The Godfather: Chuck Berry On Ramones, Sex Pistols And More

Chuck’s review of new music for the punk fanzine ‘Jet Lag’ in 1980 read like a fascinating bridge between cultures.

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Chuck Berry - Photo: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images
Photo: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images

A fascinating interview given by Chuck Berry to the punk fanzine Jet Lag in 1980 read like a bridge between cultures. In those days of the new wave, it reveals his opinions on recordings by such important artists in their own right as The Clash and Wire – and that while he wasn’t sure about the Sex Pistols and Joy Division, he had plenty of time for Talking Heads and the Ramones. 

The rock’n’roll pioneer was played a number of recent releases by the magazine and, as a spokesman for teens of a previous generation, asked his opinion on some key recent releases. Berry made comparisons between some of these young guns and earlier, time-honored work by himself and others. 

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Listening to the Pistols’ punk staple “God Save The Queen,” for example, he asked: “What’s this guy [Johnny Rotten/John Lydon] so angry about anyway? Guitar work and progression is like mine. Good backbeat. Can’t understand most of the vocals. If you’re going to be mad at least let the people know what you’re mad about.”

Considering Wire’s “I Am the Fly” and the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures, Chuck ruled: “So this is the so-called new stuff. It’s nothing I ain’t heard before. It sounds like an old blues jam that BB [King] and Muddy [Waters] would carry on backstage at the old amphitheatre in Chicago. The instruments may be different, but the experiment’s the same.”

‘I only knew three chords too’

Of the Clash’s “Complete Control,” Berry referred back to the Pistols by saying: “Sounds like the first one. The rhythm and chording work well together. Did this guy have a sore throat when he sang the vocals?”

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His greatest enthusiasm was reserved for the Ramones’ “Sheena is a Punk Rocker” (“A good little jump number. These guys remind me of myself when I first started, I only knew three chords too”) and Talking Heads. Of their “Psycho Killer,” he said: “A funky little number, that’s for sure. I like the bass [by Tina Weymouth] a lot. Good mixture and a real good flow. The singer [David Byrne] sounds like he has a bad case of stage fright.”

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  1. j

    April 3, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    nice find and much thanks for posting from my guitar hero who inspired keef and about a million more +

    of other guitarists etc

  2. Chukcanuk

    April 4, 2022 at 6:01 pm

    Where is the rest of the interview/

  3. Dirt McGirt

    November 30, 2022 at 10:15 pm

    You know man, I’ve been a punker for years, play it myself, and it just now occurred to me how much of a debt old DOA, the Pistols, Anti Nowhere Leauge, The Ramones, and the rest owe Chuck Berry. The solos especially. Essentially the old 70s/early 80s punk before the speed came in was real stripped-down rock and roll at it’s core. You might could go so far as calling Chuck the godfather of punk. Listed to DOA’s 001 Loser’s Club off Hardcore 81 and you’ll see what I’m blathering about. It goes to prove – there’s n0 “black music” or “white music” – it’s music. Musical cats of any color sit up and pay attention when they hear something that inspires them.

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